Bitcoin Private Keys Directory

[ELI5] Extracting Privkeys from QT/Core

We have a constant stream of people coming back after abandoning Dogecoin and the sub in 2014 when the price fell. These people all have old versions of QT and are now basically trying to recover their coins, presumably to cash out and abandon us again. This is causing strain for the network, as far more people are trying to leech blocks than seed them.
The thing is, none of this is necessary. Especially if you're just going to dump coins. With resources such as https://coinb.in/#settings all you need are your private keys, and you can create, sign and broadcast transactions yourself. No client required, let alone one as resource-hungry as QT.

"So, how do I get my keys?"

First of all, lets talk about data management. The overwhelming majority of coins are not lost through theft, especially direct theft of wallets (as distinct from wholesale thefts/scams/implosions like Moolah, GAW, MtGox, Cryptsy, and even our own beloved Dogetipbot). Most coins are lost because people forget about their wallets and do silly things like reformat hard drives, lose passwords and so on.
So, everyone should have a wallet list. Here is a sample bit of HTML that gives you a page with two columns of wallets, one for local wallets you would withdraw coins to, the other the third-party wallets you would deposit coins to third parties through (do note that many services use temporary addresses generated for deposits which expire after 24h or so). A page like this is how I manage my 100+ wallets, and I have copies on my network and hidden online. Such a page makes it easy to at least keep track of all your wallets, for a trivial amount of work to set up.
 
 Sample - Twitter Fr DFXXz9gq3WkgJaHn9tXRChMhFQcwm4Y251 To DByYgzd4ec5Ku9vPag8XqoBfyRpsoj8Xs3 @TipDoge Sample - Backslash Fr DSDyv83VC1QtEnmJ4ATKFn5Sw3iC12VLmX To D9MsxSyJe5Mq7fWFRpC7zQQt1gexHccN4w Backslash To DJ3GL68kw8vh99RvxnEmQKE8A3cWRoEEqo Backslash Faucet Sample - Block.io To DE5QamzWVnxK2HmCS61cUsrn9iwgTArunU Block.io 

"OK, great, so now I have a list of my wallets. Now what?"

Now you're going to need the private keys for each of those wallets. Obviously you're not going to store these in a public place though. So you will need a separate file, which can just be plain text. Copy each of those addresses into it.
Now go ahead and fire up QT. If you haven't synced it in 3 years, its going to take forever, but that doesn't matter. You don't actually need the blockchain for this, so you don't have to wait for it to catch up.
Open up the console which is in the Help menu. Then give the command dumpprivkey with the wallet address you want the key to. Then use the up-arrow key to bring that command back, replace the address with the next one, and keep going until you have them all.
It will look something like this:
 13:05:18 Welcome to the Dogecoin RPC console. Use up and down arrows to navigate history, and Ctrl-L to clear screen. Type help for an overview of available commands. 13:11:06 dumpprivkey D9xDcRthB6XP4vRGqiyKdDfVJ7CWhYuBBi 13:11:06 6KEcssuq1wWUrFVmMF8yDxHuAdQMiRezz53zDxADLmyoXnix7iM 13:12:00 dumpprivkey DUDARNrGHVTFcCgriwRWgDQJPKDuDQr9jg 13:12:00 6JNk6NNFZcr49fbsD2jcTfTxFLjJKq9DHQ5JU8CYeZ2Cz6JdKMY 13:12:25 dumpprivkey DG6xnwCT6BXePaySqU85XocobZmhbJczQH 13:12:25 6JNXFv95Mp9SzehHw9jojjdxHRNPeh77qCsRbaNwJZMp9MKCAu3 
Yes, those are real wallets. But don't bother trying to steal my coins, I just generated them on https://walletgenerator.net/ and they're empty.
That's basically it. All you need to do is add some descriptions of what the wallets are, pretty up the format to your liking, and save copies in multiple, secure places, including printed out.

Remember, if you lose your keys, OR someone else sees them, you lose your coins!

If those were my real wallets above, you could use the keys and spend my coins. So obviously, don't let anyone else, especially annoying little brothers, get their grubby hands on them. But also make sure they can be discovered if anything happens to you. That's why the printed copies... nobody is going to go trolling through your porn or warez collection on the offchance there's something valuable in there. But they will look in your safe or wherever you store other important documents. Just be sure to leave a note as to what they are and how to use them. Remember the woman who came here a couple years ago who had found a USB stick with 110 BTC in a locked wallet.dat on it from her dead husband? I sometimes wonder if she ever got the money. Don't be her. Or him.

"OK, great. Now I have my keys. What now?"

Well, you can spend coins using https://coinb.in/#settings from any wallet you have the keys to. First step is to choose the network. Dogecoin (mainnet) obviously. Then go to Transaction in the +New menu. Enter your address and hit the Load button. It will pull in the first 100 transactions. Now enter the address to pay, and the amount.
Note the Transaction Fee box!
You want this amount to be zero. Depending on whether you're moving coins to another of your wallets to consolidate them (a very good idea.. go read the UTXO ELI5, which you will find a couple pages into https://www.reddit.com/dogecoin/comments/4yts6h/start_here_for_much_wallet_wow/ - Yes, I'm going to make you work for it, cos there's tons of useful stuff there you need to know), or paying someone else, you may want to select which inputs to use.
Once you're happy with the transaction, go ahead and submit it. You will now get a block of text, which is the raw, unsigned transaction. Copy this. Go to the Sign tab. Paste it. Add your private key and Submit to sign it.
After a little bit, you will get a signed transaction. Copy it. Go to the Broadcast tab, paste it and hit Submit.
That's it. It should go into the next block in a minute or two. Yes, even without paying a mining fee. Our network is so lightly loaded that there are no contention issues like the Bitcoin people have to put up with.

"That's it? So why do I need QT?"

You don't. The process above is all that's involved in spending coins. Everything else is window dressing. So there is no need to run QT, or any other client. Oh, and since you can download the site and run it locally (mostly offline), there is no security issue beyond the usual keyloggers/spyware that can compromise anything. And by knowing how to do this, you are much better protected from accidental loss than someone who blindly trusts black boxes they don't understand.
Oh, one final thing... if you really want to help the network by seeding rather than leeching, go ahead and run a full node. Instructions are in that link above. AND you may want to help seed the bootstrap file torrent from a couple of days ago. Just because YOU don't need it, doesn't mean others don't, right?
submitted by Fulvio55 to dogecoin [link] [comments]

HD address generation seems to work in bitcoin 0.13.0rc1 :-)

"The only people who should be running fully synchronizing nodes are miners and businesses and uber-geeks like theymos who enjoy fiddling with technology."
Gavin Andresen
Compiled bitcoin-0.13.0rc1 from source on Ubuntu.
Like in older versions, there was no menu visible in bitcoin-qt (it was in the binaries) but I finally solved it through:
sudo apt-get remove appmenu-qt5
I then added the following code:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8206/files
so I could dump the extended private master key (xprv....)
and recompiled.
To dump the wallet (that here includes the master key):
In bitcoin-qt: click help, then choose console
walletpassphrase passphrasehere 60
dumpwallet filename
I then checked some of the addresses generated in bitcoin-qt here:
https://github.com/bip32JP/bip32.github.io
Substituting the BIP32 Extended Key and using:
Custom Path: m/0'/0'/0' (for the first address, etc.)
THEY AGREED!
(edit: and also the private keys)
Thanks, core developers and especially:
Jonas Schnelli
It's nice not having to worry anymore if the backup of your (encrypted) wallet.dat file has become outdated.
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The Strange Birth & History of Monero, Part IV: Monero "as it is now"

You can read here part III.
You can read this whole story translated into Spanish here
This is part IV, the last but not least.
Monero - A secure, private, untreceable cryptocurrency
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0
Notable comments in this thread:
-201: “I would like to offer 1000 MRO to the first person who creates a pool”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6422665#msg6422665)
[tacotime offers bounty to potential pool developer. Bytecoin devs haven’t released any code for pools, and the only existent pool, minergate (in the future related to BCN interests) was closed source]
-256: “Adam back seems to like CryptoNote the better than Zerocash https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/453493394472697856”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6440769#msg6440769)
-264: “update on pools: The NOMP guy (zone117x) is looking to fork his open source software and get a pool going, so one should hopefully be up soon.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6441302#msg6441302)
-273: “Update on GUI: othe from VertCoin has notified me that he is working on it.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6442606#msg6442606)
-356: “Everyone wanting a pool, please help raise a bounty with me here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589533.0
And for the GUI:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.0”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6461533#msg6461533)
[5439 MRO + 0.685 BTC + 5728555.555 BCN raised for pool and 1652 XMR, 121345.46695471 BCN for the GUI wallet. Though this wallet was "rejected" as official GUI because wallet still has to be polished before building a GUI]
-437: “Yes, most Windows users should see a higher hashrate with the new build. You can thank NoodleDoodle. ”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6481202#msg6481202)
-446: “Even faster Windows binaries have just been uploaded. Install for more hash power! Once again, it was NoodleDoodle.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6483680#msg6483680)
-448: “that almost doubled my hashrate again! GREAT STUFF !!!”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6484109#msg6484109)
-461: “Noodle only started optimization today so there may be gains for your CPU in the future.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6485247#msg6485247)
[First day of miner optimization by NoodleDoodle, it is only May 1st]
-706: “The unstoppable NoodleDoodle has optimized the Windows build again. Hashrate should more than double. Windows is now faster than Linux. :O”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6549444#msg6549444)
-753: “i here tft is no longer part of the project. so is he forking or relaunching bytecoin under new name and new parameters (merged mining with flatter emission curve.) also. what is the end consensus for the emission curve for monero. will it be adjusted."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6561345#msg6561345)
[May, 5th 2014. TFT is launching FANTOMCOIN, a clone coin which its "only" feature was merged mining]
-761: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6561941#msg6561941) [May, 5th 2014 – eizh on emission curve and tail emission]
-791: “As promised, I did Russian translation of main topic.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6565521#msg6565521)
[one among dozens of decentralized and “altruist” collaborators of Monero in minor tasks]
-827: image
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6571652#msg6571652)
-853: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6575033#msg6575033)
[some are not happy that NoodleDoodle had only released the built binaries, but not the source code]
-950: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6593768#msg6593768)
[Rias, an account suspected to be related to the Bytecoin scam, dares to tag Monero as “instamine”]
-957: “It's rather bizarre that you're calling this an "instamine" scam when you're so fervently supporting BCN, which was mined 80% before entering the clearnet. Difficulty adjustments are per block, so there is no possibility of an instamine unless you don't publish your blockchain (emission is regular at the preset interval, and scales adequately with the network hash rate). What you're accusing monero of is exactly what ByteCoin did.”
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6594025#msg6594025
[Discussion with rias drags on for SEVERAL posts]
-1016: “There is no "dev team". There is a community of people working on various aspects of the coin.
I've been keeping the repo up to date. NoodleDoodle likes to optimise his miner. TFT started the fork and also assists when things break. othe's been working on a GUI. zone117x has been working on a pool.
It's a decentralized effort to maintain the fork, not a strawman team of leet hackers who dwell in the underbellies of the internet and conspire for instamines.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6596828#msg6596828)
-1023: “Like I stated in IRC, I am not part of the "dev team", I never was. Just so happens I took a look at the code and changed some extremely easy to spot "errors". I then decided to release the binary because I thought MRO would benefit from it. I made this decision individually and nobody else should be culpable”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6597057#msg6597057)
[Noodledoodle gets rid of the instaminer accusations]
-1029: “I decided to relaunch Monero so it will suit all your wishes that you had: flatter emission curve, open source optimized miner for everybody from the start, no MM with BCN/BMR and the name. New Monero will be ready tomorrow”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6597252#msg6597252)
[people trying to capitalize mistakes is always there.]
-1030: "Pull request has been submitted and merged to update miner speed
It appears from the simplicity of the fix that there may have been deliberate crippling of the hashing algorithm from introduction with ByteCoin."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6597460#msg6597460
[tacotime “officially” raises suspects of possible voluntarily crippled miner]
-1053: "I don't mind the 'relaunch' or the merge-mining fork or any other new coin at all. It's inevitable that the CryptoNote progresses like scrypt into a giant mess of coins. It's not undesirable or 'wrong'. Clones fighting out among themselves is actually beneficial for Monero. Although one of them is clearly unserious and trolling by choosing the same name.
Anyway, this sudden solidarity with BCN or TFT sure is strange when none of these accounts were around for the discussions that took place 3 weeks ago. Such vested interests with no prior indications. Hmm...? "
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6599013#msg6599013
[eizh points out the apparent organized fudding]
-1061: "There was no takeover. The original developer (who himself did a fork of bytecoin and around a dozen lines of code changes) was non-responsive and had disappeared. The original name had been cybersquatted all over the place (since the original developer did not even register any domain name much less create a web site), making it impossible to even create a suitably named web site. A bunch of us who didn't want to see the coin die who represented a huge share of the hash power and ownership of the coin decided to adopt it. We reached out to the original developer to participate in this community effort and he still didn't respond over 24 hours, so we decided to act to save the coin from neglect and actively work toward building the coin."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6599798#msg6599798)
[smooth defends legitimacy of current “dev team” and decisions taken]
-1074: “Zerocash will be announced soon (May 18 in Oakland? but open source may not be ready then?).
Here is a synopsis of the tradeoffs compared to CyptoNote: […]"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6602891#msg6602891)
[comparison among Zerocash y Cryptonote]
-1083: "Altcoin history shows that except in the case of premine (Tenebrix), the first implementation stays the largest by a wide margin. We're repeating that here by outpacing Bytecoin (thanks to its 80% mine prior to surfacing). No other CN coin has anywhere near the hashrate or trading volume. Go check diff in Fantom for example or the lack of activity in BCN trading.
The only CN coin out there doing something valuable is HoneyPenny, and they're open source too. If HP develops something useful, MRO can incorporate it as well. Open source gives confidence. No need for any further edge."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6603452#msg6603452)
[eizh reminds everyone the “first mover” advantage is a real advantage]
-1132: "I decided to tidy up bitmonero GitHub rep tonight, so now there is all valuable things from latest BCN commits & Win32. Faster hash from quazarcoin is also there. So BMR rep is the freshest one.
I'm working on another good feature now, so stay tuned."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6619738#msg6619738)
[first TFT apparition in weeks, he somehow pretends to still be the "lead dev"]
-1139: "This is not the github or website used by Monero. This github is outdated even with these updates. Only trust binaries from the first post."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6619971#msg6619971)
[eizh tries to clarify the community, after tft interference, which are the official downloads]
-1140: “The faster hash is from NoodleDoodle and is already submitted to the moner-project github (https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero) and included in the binaries here.
[trying to bring TFT back on board] It would be all easier if you just work together with the other guys, whats the problem? Come to irc and talk like everyone else?
[on future monero exchangers] I got confirmation from one."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6619997#msg6619997)
[8th may 2014, othe announces NoodleDoodle optimized miner is now open source, asks TFT to collaborate and communicates an exchanger is coming]
-1146: "I'll be impressed if they [BCN/TFT shills] manage to come up with an account registered before January, but then again they could buy those.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6620257#msg6620257)
[smooth]
-1150: “Ring signatures mean that when you sign a transaction to spend an output (coins), no one looking at the block chain can tell whether you signed it or one of the other outputs you choose to mix in with yours. With a mixing factor of 5 or 10 after several transactions there are millions of possible coins all mixed together. You get "anonymity" and mixing without having to use a third party mixer.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6620433#msg6620433)
[smooth answering to “what are ring signatures” in layman terms]
-1170: "Someone (C++ skilled) did private optimized miner a few days ago, he got 74H/s for i5 haswell. He pointed that mining code was very un-optimized and he did essential improvements for yourself. So, high H/S is possible yet. Can the dev's core review code for that?"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6623136#msg6623136)
[forums are talking about an individual or group of individuals with optimized miners - may 9th 2014]
-1230: "Good progress on the pool reported by NOMP dev zone117x. Stay tuned, everyone.
And remember to email your favorite exchanges about adding MRO."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6640190#msg6640190)
-1258: "This is actually as confusing to us as you. At one point, thankful_for_today said he was okay with name change: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.msg6368600#msg6368600
Then he disappeared for more than a week after the merge mining vote failed.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6645981#msg6645981)
[eizh on the TFT-issue]
-1358: “Jadehorse: registered on 2014-03-06 and two pages of one line posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263597
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263597;sa=showPosts
Trustnobody: registered on 2014-03-06 and two pages of one line posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=264292
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=264292;sa=showPosts
You guys should really just stop trying. It is quite transparent what you are doing. Or if you want to do it, do it somewhere else. Everyone else: ignore them please."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6666844#msg6666844)
[FUD campaign still ongoing, smooth battles it]
-1387: "The world’s first exchange for Monero just opened! cryptonote.exchange.to"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6675902#msg6675902)
[David Latapie announces an important milestone: exchanger is here]
-1467: "image"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6686125#msg6686125)
[it is weird, but tft appears again, apparently as if he were in a parallel reality]
-1495: “http://monero.cc/blog/monero-price-0-002-passed/”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6691706#msg6691706)
[“trading” milestone reached: monero surpassed for first time 0.002 btc price]
-1513: "There is one and only one coin, formerly called Bitmonero, now called Monero. There was a community vote in favor (despite likely ballot stuffing against). All of the major stakeholders at the time agreed with the rename, including TFT.
The code base is still called bitmonero. There is no reason to rename it, though we certainly could have if we really wanted to.
TFT said he he is sentimental about the Bitmonero name, which I can understand, so I don't think there is any malice or harm in him continuing to use it. He just posted the nice hash rate chart on here using the old name. Obviously he understands that they are one and the same coin."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6693615#msg6693615)
[Smooth clears up again the relation with TFT and BMR. Every time he appears it seems to generate confusion on newbies]
-1543: "Pool software is in testing now. You can follow the progress on the pool bounty thread (see original post on this thread for link)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6698097#msg6698097)
-1545: "[on the tail emission debate] I've been trying to raise awareness of this issue. The typical response seems to be, "when Bitcoin addresses the problem, so will we." To me this means it will never be addressed. The obvious solution is to perpetually increase the money supply, always rewarding miners with new coins.
Tacotime mentioned a hard fork proposal to never let the block reward drop below 1 coin:
Code: if (blockReward < 1){ blockReward = 1; }
I assume this is merely delaying the problem, however. I proposed a fixed annual debasement (say 2%) with a tx fee cap of like 0.001% of the current block reward (or whatever sounds reasonable). That way we still get the spam protection without worrying about fee escalation down the road."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6698879#msg6698879)
[Johnny Mnemonic wants to debate tail emission. Debate is moved to the “Monero Economy” thread]
-1603: “My GOD,the wallet is very very wierd and too complicated to operate, Why dont release a wallet-qt as Bitcoin?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6707857#msg6707857)
[Newbies have hard times with monero]
-1605: "because this coin is not a bitcoin clone and so there isnt a wallet-qt to just copy and release. There is a bounty for a GUI wallet and there is already an experimental windows wallet..."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6708250#msg6708250)
-1611: "I like this about Monero, but it seems it was written by cryptographers, not programmers. The damned thing doesn't even compile on Arch, and there are several bugs, like command history not working on Linux. The crypto ideas are top-notch, but the implementation is not."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6709002#msg6709002)
[Wolf0, a miner developer, little by little joining the community]
-1888: "http://198.199.79.100 (aka moneropool.org) successfully submitted a block. Miners will be paid for their work once payments start working.
P.S. This is actually our second block today. The first was orphaned. :/"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6753836#msg6753836)
[May 16th: first pool block]
-1927: "Botnets aren't problem now. The main problem is a private hi-performance miner"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6759622#msg6759622)
-1927: "Evidence?"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6759661#msg6759661)
[smooth about the private optimized miner]
-1937: “[reference needed: smooth battling the weak evidence of optimized miner] Yes, I remember that. Some person on the Internet saying that some other unnamed person said he did something hardly constitutes evidence.
I'm not even doubting that optimized asm code could make a big difference. Just not sure how to know whether this is real or not. Rumors and FUD are rampant, so it is just hard to tell."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760040#msg6760040)
[smooth does not take the "proof" seriously]
-1949: "image
One i5 and One e5 connected to local pool:
image"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760624#msg6760624)
[proof of optimized miner]
-1953: "lazybear are you interested in a bounty to release the source code (maybe cleaned up a bit?) your optimized miner? If not, I'll probably play around with the code myself tomorrow and see if I can come up with something, or maybe Noodle Doodle will take an interest."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760699#msg6760699)
[smooth tries to bring lazybear and his optimized miner on board]
-1957: "smooth, NoodleDoodle just said on IRC his latest optimizations are 4x faster on Windows. Untested on Linux so far but he'll push the source to the git repo soon. We'll be at 1 million network hashrate pretty soon."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760814#msg6760814)
[eizh makes publics NoodleDoodle also has more miner optimizations ready]
-1985: “Someone (not me) created a Monero block explorer and announced it yesterday in a separate thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611561.0”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6766206#msg6766206)
[May 16th, 2014: a functional block explorer]
-2018: “Noodle is doing some final tests on Windows and will begin testing on Linux. He expects hashrate should increase across all architectures. I can confirm a 5x increase on an i7 quad-core + Windows 7 64-bit.
Please be patient. These are actual changes to the program, not just a switch that gets flicked on. It needs testing.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6770093#msg6770093)
[eizh has more info on last miner optimization]
-2023: “Monero marketcap is around $300,000 as of now”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6770365#msg6770365)
-2059: I was skeptical of this conspiracy theory at first but after thinking about the numbers and looking back at the code again, I'm starting to believe it.
These are not deep optimizations, just cleaning up the code to work as intended.
At 100 H/s, with 500k iterations, 70 cycles per L3 memory access, we're now at 3.5 GHz which is reasonably close. So the algorithm is finally memory-bound, as it was originally intended to be. But as delivered by the bytecode developers not even close.
I know this is going to sound like tooting our own horn but this is another example of the kind of dirty tricks you can expect from the 80% premine crowd and the good work being done in the name of the community by the Monero developers.
Assuming they had the reasonable, and not deoptimized, implementation of the algorithm as designed all along (which is likely), the alleged "two year history" of bytecoin was mined on 4-8 PCs. It's really one of the shadiest and sleaziest premines scams yet, though this shouldn't be surprising because in every type of scam, the scams always get sneakier and more deceptive over time (the simple ones no longer work)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6773168#msg6773168)
[smooth blowing the lid: if miner was so de-optimized, then BCN adoption was even lower than initially thought]
-2123: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6781481#msg6781481)
[fluffypony first public post in Monero threads]
-2131: "moneropool.org is up to 2KHs, (average of 26Hs per user). But that's still only 0.3% of the reported network rate of 575Khs.
So either a large botnet is mining, or someone's sitting quietly on a much more efficient miner and raking in MRO."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6782192#msg6782192)
[with pools users start to notice that “avg” users account for a very small % of the network hashrate, either botnets or a super-optimized miner is mining monero]
-2137: “I figure its either:
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6782852#msg6782852)
-2192: “New source (0.8.8.1) is up with optimizations in the hashing. Hashrate should go up ~4x or so, but may have CPU architecture dependence. Windows binaries are up as well for both 64-bit and 32-bit."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6788812#msg6788812)
[eizh makes official announce of last miner optimization, it is may 17th]
-2219: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6792038#msg6792038)
[wolf0 is part of the monero community for a while, discussing several topics as botnet mining and miner optimizations. Now spots security flaws in the just launched pools]
-2301: "5x optimized miner released, network hashrate decreases by 10% Make your own conclusions. :|"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6806946#msg6806946)
-2323: "Monero is on Poloniex https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_mro"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6808548#msg6808548)
-2747: "Monero is holding a $500 logo contest on 99designs.com now: https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6829109#msg6829109)
-2756: “So... ALL Pools have 50KH/s COMBINED.
Yet, network hash is 20x more. Am i the only one who thinks that some people are insta mining with prepared faster miners?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6829977#msg6829977)
-2757: “Pools aren't stable yet. They are more inefficient than solo mining at the moment. They were just released. 10x optimizations have already been released since launch, I doubt there is much more optimization left.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6830012#msg6830012)
-2765: “Penalty for too large block size is disastrous in the long run.
Once MRO value increases a lot, block penalties will become more critical of an issue. Pools will fix this issue by placing a limit on number and size of transactions. Transaction fees will go up, because the pools will naturally accept the most profitable transactions. It will become very expensive to send with more than 0 mixin. Anonymity benefits of ring signatures are lost, and the currency becomes unusable for normal transactions.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6830475#msg6830475)
-2773: "The CryptoNote developers didn't want blocks getting very large without genuine need for it because it permits a malicious attack. So miners out of self-interest would deliberately restrict the size, forcing the network to operate at the edge of the penalty-free size limit but not exceed it. The maximum block size is a moving average so over time it would grow to accommodate organic volume increase and the issue goes away. This system is most broken when volume suddenly spikes."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6830710#msg6830710)
-3035: "We've contributed a massive amount to the infrastructure of the coin so far, enough to get recognition from cryptonote, including optimizing their hashing algorithm by an order of magnitude, creating open source pool software, and pushing several commits correcting issues with the coin that eventually were merged into the ByteCoin master. We also assisted some exchange operators in helping to support the coin.
To say that has no value is a bit silly... We've been working alongside the ByteCoin devs to improve both coins substantially."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6845545#msg6845545)
[tacotime defends the Monero team and community of accusations of just “ripping-off” others hard-work and “steal” their project]
-3044: "image"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6845986#msg6845986)
[Monero added to coinmarketcap may 21st 2014]
-3059: "You have no idea how influential you have been to the success of this coin. You are a great ambassador for MRO and one of the reasons why I chose to mine MRO during the early days (and I still do, but alas no soup for about 5 days now)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6846509#msg6846509)
[random user thanks smooth CONSTANT presence, and collaboration. It is not all FUD ;)]
-3068: "You are a little too caught up in the mindset of altcoin marketing wars about "unique features" and "the team" behind the latest pump and dump scam.
In fact this coin is really little more than BCN without the premine. "The team" is anyone who contributes code, which includes anyone contributing code to the BCN repository, because that will get merged as well (and vice-versa).
Focus on the technology (by all accounts amazing) and the fact that it was launched in a clean way without 80% of the total world supply of the coin getting hidden away "somewhere." That is the unique proposition here. There also happens to be a very good team behind the coin, but anyone trying too hard to market on the basis of some "special" features, team, or developer is selling you something. Hold on to your wallet."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6846638#msg6846638)
[An answer to those trolls saying Monero has no innovation/unique feature]
-3070: "Personally I found it refreshing that Monero took off WITHOUT a logo or a gui wallet, it means the team wasn't hyping a slick marketing package and is concentrating on the coin/note itself."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6846676#msg6846676)
-3119: “image
[included for the lulz]
-3101: "[…]The main developers are tacotime, smooth, NoodleDoodle. Some needs are being contracted out, including zone117x, LucasJones, and archit for the pool, another person for a Qt GUI, and another person independently looking at the code for bugs."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6848006#msg6848006)
[the initial "core team" so far, eizh post]
-3123: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6850085#msg6850085)
[fluffy steps-in with an interesting dense post. Don’t dare to skip it, worthwhile reading]
-3127: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6850526#msg6850526)
[fluffy again, worth to read it too, so follow link, don’t be lazy]
-3194: "Hi guys - thanks to lots of hard work we have added AES-NI support to the slow_hash function. If you're using an AES-NI processor you should see a speed-up of about 30%.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6857197#msg6857197)
[flufflypony is now pretty active in the xmr topic and announces a new optimization to the crippled miner]
-3202: "Whether using pools or not, this coin has a lot of orphaned blocks. When the original fork was done, several of us advised against 60 second blocks, but the warnings were not heeded.
I'm hopeful we can eventually make a change to more sane 2- or 2.5-minute blocks which should drastically reduce orphans, but that will require a hard fork, so not that easy."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6857796#msg6857796)
[smooth takes the opportunity to remember the need of bigger target block]
-3227: “Okay, optimized miner seems to be working: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619373”
[wolf0 makes public his open source optimized miner]
-3235: "Smooth, I agree block time needs to go back to 2 minutes or higher. I think this and other changes discussed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597878.msg6701490#msg6701490) should be rolled into a single hard fork and bundled with a beautiful GUI wallet and mining tools."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6861193#msg6861193)
[tail emission, block target and block size are discussed in the next few messages among smooth, johnny and others. If you want to know further about their opinions/reasonings go and read it]
-3268: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6862693#msg6862693)
[fluffy dares another user to bet 5 btc that in one year monero will be over dash in market cap. A bet that he would have lost as you can see here https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20150524/ even excluding the 2M “instamined” coins]
-3283: "Most of the previous "CPU only" coins are really scams and the developers already have GPU miner or know how to write one. There are a very few exceptions, almost certainly including this one.
I don't expect a really dominant GPU miner any time soon, maybe ever. GPUs are just computers though, so it is certainly possible to mine this on a GPU, and there probably will be a some GPU miner, but won't be so much faster as to put small scale CPU miners out of business (probably -- absent some unknown algorithmic flaw).
Everyone focuses on botnets because it has been so long since regular users were able to effectively mine a coin (due to every coin rapidly going high end GPU and ASIC) that the idea that "users" could vastly outnumber "miners" (botnet or otherwise) isn't even on the radar.
The vision here is a wallet that asks you when you want to install: "Do you want to devote some of you CPU power to help secure the network. You will be eligible to receive free coins as a reward (recommended) [check box]." Get millions of users doing that and it will drive down the value of mining to where neither botnets nor professional/industrial miners will bother, and Satoshi's original vision of a true p2p currency will be realized.
That's what cryptonote wants to accomplish with this whole "egalitarian mining" concept. Whether it succeeds I don't know but we should give it a chance. Those cryptonote guys seem pretty smart. They've probably thought this through better than any of us have."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6863720#msg6863720)
[smooth vision of a true p2p currency]
-3318: "I have a screen shot that was PMed to me by someone who paid a lot of money for a lot of servers to mine this coin. He won't be outed by me ever but he does in fact exist. Truth."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6865061#msg6865061)
[smooth somehow implies it is not botnets but an individual or a group of them renting huge cloud instances]
-3442: "I'm happy to report we've successfully cracked Darkcoin's network with our new quantum computers that just arrived from BFL, a mere two weeks after we ordered them."
[fluffy-troll]
-3481: “Their slogan is, "Orphaned Blocks, Bloated Blockchain, that's how we do""
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6878244#msg6878244)
[Major FUD troll in the topic. One of the hardest I’ve ever seen]
-3571: "Tacotime wanted the thread name and OP to use the word privacy instead of anonymity, but I made the change for marketing reasons. Other coins do use the word anonymous improperly, so we too have to play the marketing game. Most users will not bother looking at details to see which actually has more privacy; they'll assume anonymity > privacy. In a world with finite population, there's no such thing as anonymity. You're always "1 of N" possible participants.
Zero knowledge gives N -> everyone using the currency, ring signatures give N -> your choice, and CoinJoin gives N -> people who happen to be spending around the same amount of money as you at around the same time. This is actually the critical weakness of CoinJoin: the anonymity set is small and it's fairly susceptible to blockchain analysis. Its main advantage is that you can stick to Bitcoin without hard forking.
Another calculated marketing decision: I made most of the OP about ring signatures. In reality, stealth addressing (i.e. one-time public keys) already provides you with 90% of the privacy you need. Ring signatures are more of a trump card that cannot be broken. But Bitcoin already has manual stealth addressing so the distinguishing technological factor in CryptoNote is the use of ring signatures.
This is why I think having a coin based on CoinJoin is silly: Bitcoin already has some privacy if you care enough. A separate currency needs to go way beyond mediocre privacy improvements and provide true indistinguishably. This is true thanks to ring signatures: you can never break the 1/N probability of guessing correctly. There's no additional circumstantial evidence like with CoinJoin (save for IP addresses, but that's a problem independent of cryptocurrencies)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6883525#msg6883525)
[Anonymity discussions, specially comparing Monero with Darkcoin and its coinjoin-based solution, keep going on]
-3593: "Transaction fees should be a fixed percentage of the block reward, or at the very least not be controllable by the payer. If payers can optionally pay more then it opens the door for miner discrimination and tx fee bidding wars."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6886770#msg6886770)
[Johnny Mnemonic is a firm defender of fixed fees and tail emission: he see the “fee market” as big danger to the usability of cryptocurrencies]
-3986: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6930412#msg6930412)
[partnership with i2p]
-4373: “Way, way faster version of cpuminer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619373”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6993812#msg6993812)
[super-optimized miner is finally leaked to the public. Now the hashrate is 100 times bigger than originally with crippled miner. The next hedge for "cloud farmers" is GPU mining]
-4877: “1. We have a logo! If you use Monero in any of your projects, you can grab a branding pack here. You can also see it in all its glory right here:
logo […] 4. In order to maintain ISO 4217 compliance, we are changing our ticker symbol from MRO to XMR effective immediately."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7098497#msg7098497)
[Jun 2nd 2014]
-5079: “First GPU miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638915.0”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7130160#msg7130160)
[4th June: Claymore has developed the first CryptoNight open source and publicly available GPU miner]
-5454: "New update to my miner - up to 25% hash increase. Comment and tell me how much of an increase you got from it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632724"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7198061#msg7198061)
[miner optimization is an endless task]
-5464: "I have posted a proposal for fixed subsidy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597878.msg7202538#msg7202538"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7202776#msg7202776)
[Nice charts and discussion proposed by tacotime, worth reading it]
-5658: "- New seed nodes added. - Electrum-style deterministic wallets have been added to help in the recovery of your wallet should you ever need to. It is enabled by default."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7234475#msg7234475)
[Now you can recover your wallet with a 24 word seed]
-5726: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7240623#msg7240623)
[Bitcoin Pizza in monero version: a 2500 XMR picture sale (today worth ~$20k)]
-6905: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7386715#msg7386715)
[Monero missives: CryptoNote peer review starts whitepaper reviewed)]
-7328: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7438333#msg7438333)
[android monero widget built]
This is a dense digest of the first several thousand messages on the definitive Monero thread.
A lot of things happened in this stressful days and most are recorded here. It can be summarized in this:
  • 28th April: Othe and zone117x assume the GUI wallet and CN pools tasks.
  • 30th April: First NoodleDoodle's miner optimization.
  • 11th May: First Monero exchanger
  • 13th May: Open source pool code is ready.
  • 16th May: First pool mined block.
  • 19th May: Monero in poloniex
  • 20th May: Monero +1100 bitcoin 24h trading volume in Poloniex.
  • 21st May: New official miner optimization x4 speed (accumulated optimization x12-x16). Open source wolf0's CPU miner released.
  • 25th May: partnership with i2p
  • 28th May: The legendary super-optimized miner is leaked. Currently running x90 original speed. Hedge of the "cloud farmers" is over in the cpu mining.
  • 2nd June: Monero at last has a logo. Ticker symbol changes to the definitive XMR (former MRO)
  • 4th June: Claymore's open source GPU miner.
  • 10th June: Monero's "10,000 bitcoin pizza" (2500 XMR paintig). Deterministic seed-based wallets (recover wallet with a 24 word seed)
  • March 2015 – tail emission added to code
  • March 2016 – monero hard forks to 2 min block and doubles block reward
There basically two things in here that can be used to attack Monero:
  • Crippled miner Gave unfair advantage to those brave enough to risk money and time to optimize and mine Monero.
  • Fast curve emission non-bitcoin-like curve as initially advertised and as it was widely accepted as suitable
Though we have to say two things to support current Monero community and devs:
  • The crippled miner was coded either by Bytecoin or CryptoNote, and 100% solved within a month by Monero community
  • The fast curve emission was a TFT miscalculation. He forgot to consider that as he was halving the block target he was unintentionally doubling the emission rate.
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Your gripes about Dogecoin. What is not easy enough? What sucks about the dogecoin-qt client? How can we make our moms and dads able use Dogecoin?

Sometimes I wake up all sweaty in the night, thinking that dogecoin is not easy enough to pick up. I've had someone on dogemarket ask me to accept USD via PayPal because he couldn't get his wallet to sync. This is terrible. It means that your mom will also be intimidated by Dogecoin (of all things!!).
I've read this thread with complaints about the user-friendliness of Dogecoin. I totally agree. Read the linked thread too, it makes a lot of very good points. Dogecoin is not threatening, but it can still suck to set up and to use it. It also takes a lot of effort.
Please use this thread to collect your gripes with and possibly suggestions to the both dogecoin-qt client and the general Dogecoin experience (learning about it, getting a wallet, making transactions, getting Doge, finding ways to spend it etc).
I'll start with an unordered list off the top of my head:
DUMP YOUR SORROWS HERE. Then we can see what to do about them. THANK YOU~~
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State of the Redd-Nation :: May 23, 2016

Reddcoin Weekly Development Update

Welcome again Reddheads to another weekly update of Reddcoin Development.
This past week has achieved quite a few updates.

New v2.0 Wallet and testing progress

During this last week, I have been performing testing on the switch-over logic from v3 to v4 blocks on testnet using both the version 1.4.1 wallet and version 2.0.0.0 wallet. Results have been better than expected and I am very happy with the progress so far.

Network Testing with Super-Majority

The recent testing with testnet was performed by setting the super-majority to 510/1000 blocks (51%). That is, when there have been 510 v4 blocks created in the last 1000 blocks, the rules for v4 blocks are enabled (Enforce DER Signatures). v3 blocks will then be rejected by the network.
On mainnet, the setting will be updated to be a Super-Majority 85%

Staking with different versions

Wallet Staking Block Ver Accepted by v1.4.1 Accepted by v2.0.0 Rejected by v2.0.0
Ver 1.4.1 YES v3 YES NO YES
Ver 2.0.0 YES v4 YES YES NO
SOME NOTES: After the switch of Super-Majority completes, version 1.4.1 nodes will continue to stake however, the network will reject those blocks. This is expected behaviour.

Transferring between versions

v1.4.1 v2.0.0
v1.4.1 YES YES
v2.0.0 YES YES
SOME NOTES Current testing of transferring coins between different wallet versions has been successful. Current indications are that if you are not staking, you will be able to continue to use v1.4.1 wallets. More testing to be done.
If you have any questions, or would like to know more on this, please let me know.

Translations

Translations continue to be updated which is great to see. Thank you to all those who are contributing their time and effort.
@Serkan34 continues to dominate on the European languages.
This is the running list of desired languages, and if you like you can also check the overall running list on transiflex here.

Wallet Recovery

As mentioned last week, wallet recover is no easy task. There are a few tools around on the net that can help, but it is no way guaranteed to provide 100% recovery.
So, it is important that you get in the habit of routinely backing up your wallet.dat file
For the second time in as many weeks, I have used the utility called pywallet that in my case has done a reasonable job to recover broken wallets. It is a python based tool that allows some low level manipulation of wallet files.
In this second case, it involved recovering the private keys from a testnet wallet (100K keys in total). The wallet.dat would load into Reddcoin-Qt, but then the application would sit spinning its wheels, without error, and no way to dump. Running the QT application with -salvage wallet would truncate the number of addresses that should have been available ion the wallet.
So, using the pywallet, I was able to load up read the available privatekeys in the wallet and dump the keys to a text file. This essentially was the same as last week. 100% of the privkeys were salvageable
I still have some problems importing those directly into a new wallet using the pywallet tool, and with such a large number of private keys, manual input was not an option.
I wrote a little script to pull the private keys from a text file and send a importprivatekey RPC command to the wallet. A little slower, but none the less it was effective and successful.
After starting the wallet with -rescan, it brought everything upto date with those associated addresses and their tx's into the wallet.

Large number of Micro Transactions on mainnet

Over the course of several weeks, there have been a number of instances where a large number of small transactions were broadcast onto the network.
It was brought up in a couple of forum messages on reddit and reddcointalk, so I thought it might be worthwhile just to touch on it again here.
Firstly, I would like to say, this is similar to reports that occurred on Bitcoin network where small transactions were sent to fill blocks. So I was interested to monitor just how such behaviours would occur on Reddcoins Mainnet and what the effects might be.
Reddcoin mainnet has in effect a 10x larger capacity that Bitcoin. The blocksize for Reddcoin is 1M, and the block generation time is targeted every minute (Bitcoin is 1M blocks every 10 minutes).
In the 'worst' case the maximum capacity that these transactions took on the network, was to occupy less than 25% of each block (about 230K in total)
With the number of transactions that were occurring, there were at times excesses of transactions that spilled over into subsequent blocks (again, only filling each of those to 25% capacity). When this occurred,e there were runs of up to 10-12 blocks that were filled.
In the current state of the network, where volume of transactions generally is low, it has been a good exercise to monitor the behaviour of sudden peak demand. I didnt hear of nay cases where normal transactions or staking were affected.
Thats is not to say, we are immune, If the normal operating capacity of a block was 50% or more, this would be more a concern and there could be an impact to the time of confirmation of a transaction.
Suffice to say, the current side effect is, a number of you may have a lot of small transactions sitting in your addresses. I would not be too concerned at this point, and would suggest to let the PoSV staking take care of those in due course (it will take a while to get selected due to the size), or in your next transfer, manually select a few to send them on their way.

Performance of PoSV

One of the things that has interested me for a long time with Reddcoin is how the POS mechanism behaves over time.
PoSV is unique amongst the POS crypto-currencies in the way that the weighting mechanism works, and in the way the stake reward is weighted depending on how long the coins have had to age.
A lot of things can influence the amount for each of your stake rewards,
Working with @deadpool, and @reddibrek, they have been trying to define it is simple to understand terms
But I am also studying the network in much greater detail in relation to a post on the ReddcoinTalk forum regarding PoSV v2.
This was the original statement made about 1 year ago, and I believe there is merit in re-visiting this PoSV v2 proposal. It provides and extra incentive to everyone who continues to stake, and in doing so get a bigger percentage of return.
So in my spare time I have been extracting information about the current network, the blockchain and the metrics of how it is functioning, what returns stakers currently get and whether this remains a viable option.

Getting involved

We are a global community, and cross many borders but boundaries do not need to hinder us.
The crypto currency world has not reached its tipping point yet, but when it does, it is sure to escalate at an amazing rate. There are going to be many ups and downs, and an interesting ride for sure.
If you would like to get involved and dont know where to start, reach out and we will see where you can jump in @Deadpool has a great Trello site going with activities that need looking at.

In Closing

There is still plenty to do, but we are getting closer and I look forward to another productive week.
So where ever you are, enjoy your week ahead
Keep on staking!
x-posted (https://www.reddcointalk.org/topic/839/state-of-the-redd-nation-may-23-2016)
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Bitcoin addresses and private keys are not all that random. Please take caution.

I replied to another comment just now and thought others would be interested. I no longer let wallet programs generate address for me. They are simply not secure.
Take Electrum, for example. Try to export your private keys, transform each key to its 64-char hex value, convert that to an integer, and then start a simple lookup of all 10 million values before and after your own hex value. You will find other people's used addresses. Do it to all your private keys and let it run. After a day you will start seeing the collisions.
ie.
Address: 15DTFio6WKG5HRHfRQNXXVhFroDbWwxJgp
Private key: 5JSTpckYPqsPRxrkV3zZzVKMJFNGfVu9JWX721QXTMb5Wr82mSf
Hex: 5224af20889ac590f79ca68588689d873ef60b206b33da6025ace0c90705c0b8
Int val of hex: 37154468760874988449110293609706090360941268111629659303434866284112583704760
Add and substract 100000000 to that last int, generate the private key and then address for each of those and test against a dump of all address with balances from a bitcoind.
Wallets such as Electrum don't generate their private key from 1 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639935. They stay within a much smaller bound somewhere in between.
Pretty quickly you end with a dump like
176w5WyxEFVyzew5qSjoThoAt1ERwaqpKz 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmhS9GJNrt7 1GVBWqa8yU7s9JtNacVy72f6PQVdRbhaTt 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmkFt4TbqQt 1JiDAzNpoMX1zKBBGm5LGqp9W9cTNJbrEc 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmjg8AMcAA8 198Ld4Xd3Fvd9mpANheYQHhNrv19QNV7aA 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmjSkK5fVxX 16xaFP1PkrbE8a1phY4Tq1YTREH7Fbtq9y 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmjxNp2PDzY 14R4cWRLsKoKmVjqc57nCEAbACvtydExwe 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmiqT4FPnEm 17KdvJXmynTUsSRaf9FvGkVRCQyehrxgPh 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmiSXhHXrJ9 1FFgSq6nwTMRkRe33RpXa6mBhgJzr3fwY7 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmimdfA1Arf 14pGZ4BEewBkuTnwBeAX1Q54Voa9xV8y8B 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmhx4vtSWgj 14AS4r8eWtRHdHgLUb3x8FEwyvKyMKAaEu 5KHSTeKtpXcaUJyz3iVAif76AHKZmzE4gqKkgnfBUmkUWvFH5k2
and your address will be there too, along with others.
That's why I generate my own addresses by hand from made up hex values that software wallets are unlikely to generate.
I know the conventional wisdom around here is that there are more bitcoin addresses than atoms on our planet, but in reality that is simply not the case. We will start seeing collision faster than everyone assumes. Your addresses and private keys are not truly random and have never been that.
Benford's Law applies here http://www.rexswain.com/benford.html
I don't care either way. You are free to continue to use your addresses and keys as before. I'm just letting you know - they are not as safe as you are being led to believe.
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STILL a safe way to create a paper wallet?

Years ago I used to download Bitcoin QT/Core (not sure what it's called now) on an offline laptop, generate a couple of addresses offline then go into console and dump the private keys, store the private keys on digital media and some paper wallets then send the Bitcoin to those addresses.
Is this still secure? I don't really care if there's an easier way, I like this way...
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Bitcoin Wallet Segwit Vs Bitcoinaddress.org

I have generated a swgwit address (beginning with 3) with the lastest version of Bitcoin-qt. I have than dumped the privkey and I have pasted it in the "Wallet details" in Bitcoinaddress.org. I get two bitcoin wallets (compressed and uncompressed) that start with 1.
Question: If I send bitcoin to any of the three wallets (the one generated in bitcoin-qt or the two I see in bitcoinaddress), am I always be able to retrive the find just with the private key generated in bitcoin qt for the segwit wallet?
Question 2: If i generate a 2-3 multisig address using a public key given by bitcoinaddress.org (not multisig), am I still able to retrive the funds in the multisig wallet?
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Facilitating Discussion of 0.9.0 FINAL of Bitcoin Core (aka Bitcoin QT)

To facilitate a detailed discussion of some of the finer points of this update, I added numbering to each bullet in release notes, and also posted it to RapGenius, where people can annotate it if they'd like.
I'm not a programmer, but I'm curious to hear what programmers and other people smarter than me have to say about all the new changes.
http://rapgenius.com/The-bitcoin-dev-team-bitcoin-090-final-lyrics
EDIT1 : Doh! Reddit detroyed all the formatting and now i'm on baby duty so can't fix it. EDIT 2: Nap time! Just fixed the formatting :)
---- 0.9.0 RELEASE NOTES ----
Part 1. RPC:
1.1 - New notion of 'conflicted' transactions, reported as confirmations: -1
1.2 - 'listreceivedbyaddress' now provides tx ids
1.3 - Add raw transaction hex to 'gettransaction' output
1.4 - Updated help and tests for 'getreceivedby(account|address)'
1.5 - In 'getblock', accept 2nd 'verbose' parameter, similar to getrawtransaction, but defaulting to 1 for backward compatibility
1.6 - Add 'verifychain', to verify chain database at runtime
1.7 - Add 'dumpwallet' and 'importwallet' RPCs
1.8 - 'keypoolrefill' gains optional size parameter
1.9 - Add 'getbestblockhash', to return tip of best chain
1.10 - Add 'chainwork' (the total work done by all blocks since the genesis block) to 'getblock' output
1.11 - Make RPC password resistant to timing attacks
1.12 - Clarify help messages and add examples
1.13 - Add 'getrawchangeaddress' call for raw transaction change destinations
1.14 - Reject insanely high fees by default in 'sendrawtransaction'
1.15 - Add RPC call 'decodescript' to decode a hex-encoded transaction script
1.16 - Make 'validateaddress' provide redeemScript
1.17 - Add 'getnetworkhashps' to get the calculated network hashrate
1.18 - New RPC 'ping' command to request ping, new 'pingtime' and 'pingwait' fields in 'getpeerinfo' output
1.19 - Adding new 'addrlocal' field to 'getpeerinfo' output
1.20 - Add verbose boolean to 'getrawmempool'
1.21 - Add rpc command 'getunconfirmedbalance' to obtain total unconfirmed balance
1.22 - Explicitly ensure that wallet is unlocked in importprivkey
1.23 - Add check for valid keys in importprivkey
Part 2. Command-line options:
2.1 - New option: -nospendzeroconfchange to never spend unconfirmed change outputs
2.2 - New option: -zapwallettxes to rebuild the wallet's transaction information
2.3 - Rename option '-tor' to '-onion' to better reflect what it does
2.4 - Add '-disablewallet' mode to let bitcoind run entirely without wallet (when built with wallet)
2.5 - Update default '-rpcsslciphers' to include TLSv1.2
2.6 - make '-logtimestamps' default on and rework help-message
2.7 - RPC client option: '-rpcwait', to wait for server start
2.8 - Remove '-logtodebugger'
2.9 - Allow -noserver with bitcoind
Part 3. Block-chain handling and storage:
3.1 - Update leveldb to 1.15
3.2 - Check for correct genesis (prevent cases where a datadir from the wrong network is accidentally loaded)
3.3 - Allow txindex to be removed and add a reindex dialog
3.4 - Log aborted block database rebuilds
3.5 - Store orphan blocks in serialized form, to save memory
3.6 - Limit the number of orphan blocks in memory to 750
3.7 - Fix non-standard disconnected transactions causing mempool orphans
3.8 - Add a new checkpoint at block 279,000
Part 4. Wallet:
4.1 - Bug fixes and new regression tests to correctly compute the balance of wallets containing double-spent (or mutated) transactions
4.2 - Store key creation time. Calculate whole-wallet birthday
4.3 - Optimize rescan to skip blocks prior to birthday
4.4 - Let user select wallet file with -wallet=foo.dat
4.5 - Consider generated coins mature at 101 instead of 120 blocks
4.6 - Improve wallet load time
4.7 - Don't count txins for priority to encourage sweeping
4.8 - Don't create empty transactions when reading a corrupted wallet
4.9 - Fix rescan to start from beginning after importprivkey
4.10 - Only create signatures with low S values
Part 5. Mining:
5.1 - Increase default -blockmaxsize/prioritysize to 750K/50K
5.2 - 'getblocktemplate' does not require a key to create a block template
5.3 - Mining code fee policy now matches relay fee policy
Part 6. Protocol and network:
6.1 - Drop the fee required to relay a transaction to 0.01mBTC per kilobyte
6.2 - Send tx relay flag with version
6.3 - New 'reject' P2P message (BIP 0061, see https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/7079034 for draft)
6.4 - Dump addresses every 15 minutes instead of 10 seconds
6.5 - Relay OP_RETURN data TxOut as standard transaction type
6.6 - Remove CENT-output free transaction rule when relaying
6.7 - Lower maximum size for free transaction creation
6.8 - Send multiple inv messages if mempool.size > MAX_INV_SZ
6.9 - Split MIN_PROTO_VERSION into INIT_PROTO_VERSION and MIN_PEER_PROTO_VERSION
6.10 - Do not treat fFromMe transaction differently when broadcasting
6.11 - Process received messages one at a time without sleeping between messages
6.12 - Improve logging of failed connections
6.13 - Bump protocol version to 70002
6.14 - Add some additional logging to give extra network insight
6.15 - Added new DNS seed from bitcoinstats.com
Part 7. Validation:
7.1 - Log reason for non-standard transaction rejection
7.2 - Prune provably-unspendable outputs, and adapt consistency check for it
7.3 - Detect any sufficiently long fork and add a warning
7.4 - Call the -alertnotify script when we see a long or invalid fork
7.5 - Fix multi-block reorg transaction resurrection
7.6 - Reject non-canonically-encoded serialization sizes
7.7 - Reject dust amounts during validation
7.8 - Accept nLockTime transactions that finalize in the next block
Part 8. Build system:
8.1 - Switch to autotools-based build system
8.2 - Build without wallet by passing --disable-wallet to configure, this removes the BerkeleyDB dependency
8.3 - Upgrade gitian dependencies (libpng, libz, libupnpc, boost, openssl) to more recent versions
8.4 - Windows 64-bit build support
8.5 - Solaris compatibility fixes
8.6 - Check integrity of gitian input source tarballs
8.7 - Enable full GCC Stack-smashing protection for all OSes
Part 9. GUI:
9.1 - Switch to Qt 5.2.0 for Windows build
9.2 - Add payment request (BIP 0070) support
9.3 - Improve options dialog
9.4 - Show transaction fee in new send confirmation dialog
9.5 - Add total balance in overview page
9.6 - Allow user to choose data directory on first start, when data directory ismissing, or when the -choosedatadir option is passed
9.7 - Save and restore window positions
9.8 - Add vout index to transaction id in transactions details dialog
9.9 - Add network traffic graph in debug window
9.10 - Add open URI dialog
9.11 - Add Coin Control Features
9.12 - Improve receive coins workflow: make the 'Receive' tab into a form to request payments, and move historical address list functionality to File menu
9.13 - Rebrand to Bitcoin Core
9.14 - Move initialization/shutdown to a thread. This prevents "Not responding" messages during startup. Also show a window during shutdown
9.15 - Don't regenerate autostart link on every client startup
9.16 - Show and store message of normal bitcoin:URI
9.17 - Fix richtext detection hang issue on very old Qt versions
9.18 - OS X: Make use of the 10.8+ user notification center to display Growl-like notifications
9.19 - OS X: Added NSHighResolutionCapable flag to Info.plist for better font rendering on Retina displays
9.20 - OS X: Fix bitcoin-qt startup crash when clicking dock icon
9.21 - Linux: Fix Gnome bitcoin: URI handler
Part 10. Miscellaneous:
10.1 - Add Linux script (contrib/qos/tc.sh) to limit outgoing bandwidth
10.2 - Add '-regtest' mode, similar to testnet but private with instant block generation with 'setgenerate' RPC
10.3 - Add 'linearize.py' script to contrib, for creating bootstrap.dat
10.4 - Add separate bitcoin-cli client
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[Table] IAmA: IAM Peter Vessenes, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Foundation. AMAA!

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Date: 2012-09-28
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Most proponents of Bitcoin seem to believe that there will be a point where one coin exceeds a value of $100 or even $1000. Sure, that is definitely possible and I can accept that it may happen one day. However, since each coin has this intrinsic potential value.. why would anyone spend them on trivial stuff like food now? How can you spend something that you believe will continue to grow in value effectively to infinity? That seems like a fair complaint to me, in general. In practice, and as opposed to Krugman's thoughts on the matter, we have many thousands of happy Bitcoin transactors, I think people like to spend their bitcoins with others, give them away, and use them for things. I do know some Bitcoin businesses that try never to spend their coins. That said, we have had some periods like last year where EVERYBODY wished they'd spent their coins.. To my mind volatility is a worse 'evil' than being deflationary. As I said above, I think most government economists wish an inflationary currency (and many bitcoiners hate this, and talk a lot about how much they hate it), but I think there's definitely a place in the world for a deflationary value system. An interesting thought experiment for you -- if you forked the Bitcoin blockchain and changed issuance so that it tracked say, USD or USD/EUR inflation rates for issuance, would it have the same uptake or not?
Every once in a while I hear stories about security breaches including 240,000 bitcoins that went missing the other month. How do you ensure security of account holders funds? The practical security aspects of running Bitcoin businesses are a REAL need, and it's something we want to help on with advice, and possibly opt-in certification at some point. I say more about this elsewhere in the AMA.
Furthermore, most sites I've came upon that sell goods seem poorly managed and difficult to use. Is there a Bitcoin equivalent to sites like Ebay and Amazon? Re: bitcoin site usability -- I agree, it's often terrible! I'm not sure why this is, except to say that bitcoins make transacting online so easy that even people who can't afford a designer can do it.
A: How does the intrinsic non-fiat nature of the currency affect its susceptibility to market fluctuation? I.E. Better or worse stability than fiat currency? So far, because market cap is so low, (Roughly $100mm of value), Bitcoin exchange rates are highly susceptible to people pushing it around. This is really tough for everyone. There are a bunch of businesses that might not be viable until you have some exchange rate certainties that extend beyond a short (one day-ish) window.
B: What can be done to improve the resistance to massive fluctuations in value stemming from exchange market manipulation or normal use? There are some macro-economic things that could be done, like exchanges publishing all trades to a central area, and implementing locks if prices rise / fall too suddenly, but those all have their own effects to consider. I think the fundamental thing to do is help Bitcoin acceptance and uptake grow, increasing the size of the pie until there are a much smaller number of parties that could push the price around.
C: Is there anything that can be done to the standard to improve stability or is it all up to the markets to implement safeguards? So, we all do have a part in that stabilization for sure. There's also the angle of creating whole supply chains that are bitcoin denominated -- paying our staff in Bitcoins only is an attempt to work on that angle.
What do you say to people that claim Bitcoin is nothing but a pump-and-dump pyramid scheme designed to benefit it's creators? That they're sitting on a huge pile of bitcoins obtained by them before the currency was made available to the public when mining was far easier then dumping huge batches of Bitcoins destroying the price over and over again to enrich themselves and fuck everybody else? And that they get more chumps into the system to inflate the price again, by going around the internet and promoting Bitcoins as an alternative currency rather than a complete fraud? This borders on the troll-ish, but I will say that the Bitcoin network autosizes coin generation based on how many people wish to do it. That is, people opt in to make the coins and secure the network. Nobody is forced to.
Is the Bitcoin Foundation a non-profit, tax-exempt organization in the United States? Who among the directors and the board has experience running a non-profit? Why is the ED also a member of the board? How does the ED have the time to run the organization given his obligation to CoinLab? Why haven't I seen any of the involved parties at either of the last two Bitcoin conferences? Can we get somebody who isn't a white male involved? We're a 501(c)6, Washington DC Nonprofit.
I have experience launching a non-profit, hence my job.
ED's typically get a salary and work full time at the job; we didn't know if we'd have budget to pay someone who could operate such a thing, so we went with this structure. I anticipate that I will step down from being the ED at the earliest moment we know we have someone better to do it; running CoinLab is plenty of work for me.
Our assistant director Lindsay Holland is not a white male.
In general, Bitcoin is a white male sausage-fest, though. I urge you and all Bitcoiners everywhere to work on changing that.
What is the future of bitcoins? Do you think they will ever make government-issued currency obsolete? I don't know the future of Bitcoin, but I hope that I and the Foundation are a part of it!
I don't believe Bitcoin will ever obsolete a government currency, but I only speak for myself when I say that. Bitcoin is a fascinating and novel technology with a HUGE number of potential benefits to the world, so I'm into it. I don't see a government wishing to cede control of its currency to anything like the technocratic / consensus model that Bitcoins are governed by, though.
That said, I do hope that Bitcoins will be able to help people in areas of the world that need better money features. Mpesa is a great example of something that helps Kenyans (and people from a few other countries) by changing how money is used. Bitcoin has the potential to help people like that, all over the world, whether or not the 'market' is large enough in that country.
I personally think that sort of thing is SUPER exciting.
Could you describe the bitcoin foundation for me? Sure! It's a trade organization, member-driven. Its goal is to promote, protect and help standardize Bitcoin. Our initial goals are to provide funding for the core development team, run a 2013 Silicon Valley Conference, and create some opt-in certification methods and best practices for businesses dealing with Bitcoin.
Join us.. :)
Standardize? I can tell you hate our goals, so I won't spend a long time trying to convince you. But, I will say that businesses often need a long, secure timeframe to make investment decisions, and they need to have some sense that what they work on or invest in will be roughly similar at the end of their investment to the beginning.
Why do you want to "standardize"? For instance, imagine ebay deciding to take bitcoins. The person-hours to get that done inside ebay are staggering to imagine, from wallet scalability issue to accounting treatments, refunds, ... It would be a major endeavor.
What gives you that authority? It would be great for bitcoin if ebay took bitcoins. Seriously great, but they can't right now until they feel there is some generally stable path going forward.
Why is the core development team so deserving of funding when they can't even make a decent client? You might hate everything about that, and that's cool. I urge you to go ahead, fork the code, advocate as much as you like for something else. Bitcoin's free, both the protocol and the software. Nobody is stopping you.
Is there any legal action to be done if someone steals your bitcoins? Yep, if you're in the US, file a police report, and call FBI Cybercrimes division.
As an individual member of the Bitcoin Foundation, what do I get? Any perks or privileges? Email aliases, voting rights, a newsletter, etc? Or are these memberships mostly a way of providing financial support to the foundation? The bylaws are up now, so you can read in great detail what the organization will provide its members: Link to github.com
In short, though, rights to vote people on / off the board of the Foundation, soon access to private forums, probably discounts to the bitcoin 2013 conference, happiness at supporting the dev team.
I would like to provide email aliases, we've got Patrick and Jon working on any possible gotchas there, though.
Many aren't taking bitcoin seriously because of the security issues some have had. What steps are you taking to legitimize this currency? Like Jeff says below, I would distinguish between fundamental protocol security and security practices.
Bitcoins fundamental protocol security seems pretty good at this point; I'm sure we'll all be keeping an eye on that quite intently into the future.
Practical Security has been, largely, terrible in the Bitcoin space for most businesses, Mt. Gox perhaps excepted. The amount of work it takes to secure 80 byte strings that may be valued in the million dollar range is non trivial. Think securing missile codes as to the level of security needed.
Many bitcoin businesses can't afford (or don't wish to) this sort of security. I'm hoping we can provide some tools and pointers for these businesses and their users to help people understand what they're getting into when they transact with a bitcoin business, and what their risks are.
The Bitcoin Foundation Membership (VIP) fees are definitely disproportionate. Why? Are we now heading for a two-tier bitcoin community? We got requests from large supporters to make a more expensive membership tier. I'm slow, but not so slow that I said 'no'.
I'm slow, but not so slow that I said 'no'. - So you said 'YES'? Someone said "Please make higher corporate member fees: Linux Foundation Top Tier member fees are $500k. Your plan is too low."
I said "OK, Thank you for that advice. We should do that."
Is the foundation primarily focused on US or also europe and the rest of the world? Right now Jon Matonis is considered our "Europe Expert" on the board. There's a huge amount of work to do just in keeping track of how Bitcoin is categorized and regulated around the world. I would expect the Foundation to put some time and energy into helping with that process, but it's not our first goal.
What would you or the Fundation do if the government declares Bitcoin ilegal? Advocate that such a thing is silly, unenforceable, and counterproductive.
Thats no answer to the question. Have you got any plans for the "unthinkable"? That really is what I would do. What do you suggest?
What are your thoughts on transparency of the foundation? How much revenue is there and how it is spent, will that info be public? We're aiming to be highly transparent. I proposed today that we publicize our cold wallet public keys so that people can check our balances. This got pushed back a month while we work on some logistics. I will follow up about this, though. I think having auditable books from day one is really cool.
What are your thoughts on fiat currency? I love it and wish more of it. I'm totally grateful that nations have standardized and created currencies for their people, so that I can travel and buy stuff without worrying about the reputability of a local bank when I go to exchange my money.
I read something recently about a Bitcoin based debit card system. How is that coming along? I don't know, but I want one! The Foundation would like one, too. We are trying to run the Foundation with only Bitcoins, so it would be nice to fuel up a debit card for some expenses.
Create an opt-in certification process for Bitcoin businesses. How will you be going about this? What will certification entail? TBD, But I am imagining that businesses could vet their processes and procedures against a set of published standards, pay for an audit, and then be able to help their users understand what level of security they provide, e.g. "Bronze certification -- the site could be trusted with 50 bitcoins of stored value per person."
Does the foundation intend to have control over bitcoin.org and thereby over the main distribution channel for Bitcoin-Qt? We're a member organization. Some of our members do have access to and influence over bitcoin.org and bitcoin-qt. I have no idea if they would like us to help manage bitcoin.org, since we just launched yesterday.
If the decision makers for bitcoin.org and bitcoin-qt want us to help out in those areas, I wouldn't mind. I don't think either of those things is super strategic to helping Bitcoin right now; there's more need for messaging and some financial security for the core team, and the other stuff we said we're going to work on this year. bitcoin.org and -qt publishing don't seem broken to me or risky right now.
Given that Mt Gox has a (rightfully deserved) place on he board, what steps can and will you be taking to ensure that independent exchanges are encouraged and not ignored? Also what steps, if any, can and will you take to ensure the public that the commercial interests of those on the board do not conflict with the decentralised ideals and paradigm of Bitcoin itself? I don't know how we'd encourage or ignore exchanges, since everyone is welcome to join.
I do think this individual / corporate angle is at the heart of the Bitcoin, though; it's got a lot of parties that care about it, passionately. Some are investing millions of dollars. Some are tirelessly advocating for Bitcoin. Many sit around and troll and waste people's time.
I guess that partly we expect our board members will act with integrity, and that if they aren't representing the needs of their member class, they'll get replaced with someone who will.
I also don't know how we would, practically, decentralize Bitcoin, even if we wished such a thing. I don't think anyone on the board thinks Bitcoin is doing badly. We're all really excited about it and want to help. I personally believe if corporations (a small group or just one) ever provably controlled Bitcoin, they would become vastly less appealing and useful. So, we're on watch.
Not as on watch as a paranoid bitcointalk forum troll wants us to be, but we're on watch.
Why do you require a real name and real address, when bitcoins core values are to be anonymous? The Foundation's core values include openness and transparency. I think the Bitcoin anonymous thing is overblown and a bit of a myth, by the way. Every bitcoin transaction links two addresses; often people can be determined from those addresses.
At any rate, we wish to make sure you can't stuff the ballot box during voting, and we wish civil productive discourse among our members, so we need real names and addresses.
If you just want to support us without joining, you can always send money to our vanity donation address: 1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW.
What is the current, largest obstacle when it comes to wider Bitcoin adoption? I think Bitcoin adoption is growing nicely. There seems to be a sort of stair-step function where people figure out something new and broadly appealing to do with them, and it makes a big jump. I expect we'll see that many times over the next five or ten years.
Doubts about the network's scalability, uncertain status about its legality or something else? Bitcoin's brand seems bad to me; mostly the highly publicized exchange attacks worry people. It's too hard to have a secure cold storage wallet for even a very smart individual. I'd like to see some of those things improved.
Does Bitcoin have any plan to combat criminals using the currency to purchase things on online black markets? I can't speak for Bitcoin, but the Foundation has no criminal combatant plans. We do want our members to use their real names and promise that they only engage in activities legal in their jurisdiction, though.
That's mostly just a way of us saying who we want to hang out with, and expressing some community values we think will help our organization be a success.
Did you expect for the Bitcoin concept to explode as it has? I sort of did, but I definitely didn't put my wallet behind that explosion. Sigh.
Also, where do you see it going in the future? I talk elsewhere in the AMA about what I'm hoping for Bitcoin.
Will the foundation be sponsoring Bitcoin software outside of Bitcoin.org? What do you mean? Like if Jeff Garzik made cool software that would help the Bitcoin world but didn't release it at bitcoin.org would we try and help him?
The answer is yes.
I.e., the Foundation would provide a service with recommendations such as wallet security for an exchange, but I don't think the Foundation should be in the business of "certifying". Yeah, there's an interesting set of questions there about certification. I would LOVE to see a certification that brought with it the ability to be insured against loss and theft. Think how nice it would be for an exchange or wallet business to be able to offer that insurance. That said, I don't know of any bitcoin company that has such insurance yet. I think we have some work to do vetting out the processes and procedures, and then some sales and relationship work with insurance companies first. At any rate, we won't be stumping up security for certified companies through the main Foundation corporate vehicle ever. But I think the membership will want to discuss what a good set of next steps is toward that goal, if we're all sold on trying to make it happen.
What's the advantage to using bitcoins over government issued currency, basically why should I invest my $US in bitcoins? Some people have ideological preferences for Bitcoins money issuance scheme.
Some are nerds, and like it for nerdy reasons.
Some just like being able to pay whom they choose when they choose.
Some deal with payment infrastructures that are scary (Paypal freezes are scary), or slow (wiring money in and out of small country central banks is REALLY slow).
Also, they're neat.
How does it feel to know that a kitten wearing a top hat has more upvotes than you? That kitten is so damn cute. I spent some of my AMA time going "AWWW"
How will you try to keep BIG businesses from buying their way into "THE" Bitcoin Foundation? Bitcoin is inherently free, it's peer to peer, it can be forked, it's not controlled by the Foundation, especially one that's one day old.
So, I look forward to large donations from BIG businesses. We will use that money to further the Foundation's mission. Our members will, no doubt, be highly engaged in discussions about what to do with large donations. I'm looking forward to it.
What is your opinion on Canada's new digital currency, "Mint Chip"? How does this affect Bitcoin? I don't know much about it, but I think it's cool from what I do know, (and is it technically flawed? I don't recall). I'm all for money system experimentation, as you might guess.
You are starting to get increased media/congressional notice. Are you at all worried about being shut down and prosecuted like E-Gold was? Who is we? The Foundation is a member organization, nothing else.
There are some bitcoin exchange operators that actively flout the same AML laws that got the E-Gold founders in trouble.
There are some that try hard to do the right thing, jurisdiction by jurisdiction.
Personally, I don't worry about the ones trying to comply, and I don't transact with the ones flouting the laws.
Why do you have different vote classes, is one class worth more then another? Corporate members vote their seats, Individual members vote theirs.
Anecdotally, there are fewer corporate members, so a corporate membership vote has a greater proportional influence over a board seat than an individual membership.
so a corporate membership vote has a greater proportional influence over a board seat than an individual membership. - So there may be poll when votes of both classes come together? Like asking ALL members to opt out changes to the source code? I would be stunned if we voted on source code, ever. I don't think anyone thinks that is in the remit of the Foundation.
Pragmatically, the dev team is one arm of bitcoin source code governance, and miners are the other, since they can refuse to work with code changes they don't like if they do it in bulk.
The board meets often, and should be listening to its constituents; sign up as a member, and then mail your appropriate rep. As a sample of what we discussed today: "Should we do an AMA? Who will get member signup confirmations out? Can we publicize Patrick's bylaws yet?" were the scintillating topics of conversation.
Will I be getting an e-mail with receipt for my payment confirming my membership subscription? Yes, we are ACTIVELY working on it. Apologies.
What's the dev's payroll? TBD, now that we know what our member signups are.
I don't know if we'll release payroll or budget numbers outside the membership -- something we have to discuss.
What power does this foundation have over Bitcoin? Why did you make Satoshi the founder without his permission? We have no power over Bitcoin whatsoever.
I think we felt a foundation that didn't somehow acknowledge Satoshi would be a bit churlish, like ignoring Linus completely while making the Linux Foundation. Satoshi is, as always, free to participate as he/she chooses.
Has there been a growth in algorithmic trading of Bitcoins in the past year? If so, is that growth in algos added stability to the Bitcoin Market? I have no idea. But I'm curious about this too!
Why hasn't (almost) anybody heard of you before today? I keep a low profile. Until yesterday. Also, I gave up on the forums a long time ago; not productive enough for me.
That was very informative, thanks. Not that hard to grasp when somebody spells it out. The reason you do it is to provide a second element of value to a chain of transactions; the first element of value is consensus -- what everyone else says happens.
Is there a reason for doing this? Or just a way to pace the grinding nature of mining bitcoins? The second, arguably more powerful one is provable computation time spent on creating the consensus. So you can look at a set of bitcoin transactions and say "Ah ha, that had roughly [say] $1mm worth of computation time put in to securing and validating it! I believe it's safe to consider my $55 transaction secure."
Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea how many people have applied so far? Yep. We'll release end of first-month member numbers in 29 days. :)
How does one go about buying bitcoins? Probably the fastest way is to ask a friend who has some.
Next would be to use a service like Link to bitinstant.com.
How long are terms for each board member? Two years.
Will the Bitcoin Foundation promote a Vulnerability Reward Program ? I would like to see that, but I think the first things to do in terms of importance are on our published list.
Will the funds for a permanent memberships be put into an endowment, or will they be spent immediately? We haven't discussed it. Budget discussions are next couple of weeks, now that we have our heads around some numbers.
We also have to discuss if the foundation wishes to go long bitcoin, or instead spend to its annual budget. All TBD; if you have opinions send them on to your member reps.
I'm curious about this too. I'm not sure I understand how they work entirely. Maybe somebody could Explain like i'm five... Totally. They are confusing; it's a truly novel solution. Essentially it mixes something non-intuitive and magical-seeming (public key cryptography) with something very hard to imagine a solution for (distributed timestamping among non-trusted parties).
We will be seeing the concept extended out into a number of technology arenas over the next 25 years I imagine. It's an incredibly powerful solution-space.
I spent maybe an hour on the wiki reading the FAQ and everything, and it still makes references to "blocks" and "mining blocks" and those that mine have the option of transaction fees.. and I'm still not really sure what is happening. Yep, like I said. I've been thinking hard about them for two years, I have a cryptography background, and I still have 'a-ha!' moments weekly, at the very least.
There are a couple pretty good bitcoin explanation videos out there, but I'm not up to date on what the best one is. Maybe someone helpful can post a link.
After establishing support for food and shelter for Gavin, will there be opportunities for other bitcoin developers to apply for grants - maybe for specific implementations or features desperately needed. I'd love it. I think Gavin will be working out the specifics of what we want to do. I'd LOVE to see money put into a huge test suite, personally.
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